Laws
Plato (428–347 BC)
Plato's Laws in the Greek text edited by John Burnet, with R. G. Bury's English translation.
Book 1
Section 624
Section 625
Section 626
Section 627
Section 628
Section 629
Section 630
Section 631
Section 632
Section 633
Section 634
Section 635
Section 636
Section 637
Section 638
Section 639
Section 640
Section 641
Section 642
Section 643
Section 644
Section 645
Section 646
Section 647
Section 648
Section 649
Section 650
Book 2
Section 652
Section 653
Section 654
Section 655
Section 656
Section 657
Section 658
Section 659
Section 660
Section 661
Section 662
Section 663
Section 664
Section 665
Section 666
Section 667
Section 668
Section 669
Section 670
Section 671
Section 672
Section 673
Section 674
Book 3
Section 676
Section 677
Section 678
Section 679
Section 680
Section 681
Section 682
Section 683
Section 684
Section 685
Section 686
Section 687
Section 688
Section 689
Section 690
Section 691
Section 692
Section 693
Section 694
Section 695
Section 696
Section 697
Section 698
Section 699
Section 700
Section 701
Section 702
Book 4
Section 704
Section 705
Section 706
Section 707
Section 708
Section 709
Section 710
Section 711
Section 712
Section 713
Section 714
Section 715
Section 716
Section 717
Section 718
Section 719
Section 720
Section 721
Section 722
Section 723
Section 724
Book 5
Section 726
Section 727
Section 728
Section 729
Section 730
Section 731
Section 732
Section 733
Section 734
Section 735
Section 736
Section 737
Section 738
Section 739
Section 740
Section 741
Section 742
Section 743
Section 744
Section 745
Section 746
Section 747
Book 6
Section 751
Section 752
Section 753
Section 754
Section 755
Section 756
Section 757
Section 758
Section 759
Section 760
Section 761
Section 762
Section 763
Section 764
Section 765
Section 766
Section 767
Section 768
Section 769
Section 770
Section 771
Section 772
Section 773
Section 774
Section 775
Section 776
Section 777
Section 778
Section 779
Section 780
Section 781
Section 782
Section 783
Section 784
Section 785
Book 7
Section 788
Section 789
Section 790
Section 791
Section 792
Section 793
Section 794
Section 795
Section 796
Section 797
Section 798
Section 799
Section 800
Section 801
Section 802
Section 803
Section 804
Section 805
Section 806
Section 807
Section 808
Section 809
Section 810
Section 811
Section 812
Section 813
Section 814
Section 815
Section 816
Section 817
Section 818
Section 819
Section 820
Section 821
Section 822
Section 823
Section 824
Book 8
Section 828
Section 829
Section 830
Section 831
Section 832
Section 833
Section 834
Section 835
Section 836
Section 837
Section 838
Ath. I know of a device at present for enacting this law, which is in one way easy, but in another quite the hardest possible.
Meg. Explain your meaning.
Ath. Even at present, as we are aware, most men, however lawless they are, are effectively and strictly precluded from sexual commerce with beautiful persons,—and that not against their will, but with their own most willing consent.
Meg. On what occasions do you mean?
Ath. Whenever any man has a brother or sister who is beautiful. So too in the case of a son or daughter, the same unwritten law is most effective in guarding men from sleeping with them, either openly or secretly, or wishing to have any connection with them,—nay, most men never so much as feel any desire for such connection.
Meg. That is true.
Ath. Is it not, then, by a brief sentence that all such pleasures are quenched?
Meg. What sentence do you mean?
Ath. The sentence that these acts are by no means holy, but hated of God and most shamefully shameful. And does not the reason lie in this, that nobody speaks of them otherwise, but every one of us, from the day of his birth, hears this opinion expressed always and everywhere, not only in comic speech, but often also in serious tragedy—as when there is brought on to the stage a Thyestes or an Oedipus, or a Macareus having secret intercourse with a sister, and all these are seen inflicting death upon themselves willingly as a punishment for their sins?
Meg. Thus much at least you are quite right in saying—that public opinion has a surprising influence, when there is no attempt by anybody ever to breathe a word that contradicts the law.
Ath. Then is it not true, as I said just now, that when a lawgiver wishes to subdue one of those lusts which especially subdue men, it is easy for him at least to learn the method of mastering them,—that it is by consecrating this public opinion in the eyes of all alike—bond and free, women and children, and the whole State—that he will effect the firmest security for this law.
Meg. Certainly; but how it will ever be possible for him to bring it about that all are willing to say such a thing—